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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://www.conwex.info/blog/index.php/2009/01/23/tricked-by-wrong-pdfcreator-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-51388</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this software is on the up and up then why did I get an email from them with this in the subject line &quot; Hotel for you fucking &quot; with information about some hotels in Africa? This hardly seems like something you would get from a reputable company. So I would like a real answer about this software because I think the initial post is correct and that this is some kind of malicious software posing as a pdf creator. If you like I can forward this email to whoever would like it just so you can see that I am not just blowing smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this software is on the up and up then why did I get an email from them with this in the subject line &#8221; Hotel for you fucking &#8221; with information about some hotels in Africa? This hardly seems like something you would get from a reputable company. So I would like a real answer about this software because I think the initial post is correct and that this is some kind of malicious software posing as a pdf creator. If you like I can forward this email to whoever would like it just so you can see that I am not just blowing smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: John K.</title>
		<link>http://www.conwex.info/blog/index.php/2009/01/23/tricked-by-wrong-pdfcreator-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-51372</link>
		<dc:creator>John K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragan,

Our software is 100% clean and contains no virus, trojan, logic bomb, worm, rootkit, adware, spyware, or anything malicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragan,</p>
<p>Our software is 100% clean and contains no virus, trojan, logic bomb, worm, rootkit, adware, spyware, or anything malicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragan Pleskonjic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragan Pleskonjic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear John,

Thank you for pointing to my laziness. :)

Anyway, I would appreciate if you answer next question for me and readers of this blog:

Is there any malicious behavior (virus, trojan, logic bomb, warm, rootkit, adware, spyware or similar) which you built in your PDF Creator software as part of its “functionality”?

Thank you,

Dragan

P.S. John, just to let you know that &lt;a href=&quot;http://akismet.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Akismet&lt;/a&gt; had considered your comment as spam before I looked into its queue and moved to regular comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John,</p>
<p>Thank you for pointing to my laziness. :)</p>
<p>Anyway, I would appreciate if you answer next question for me and readers of this blog:</p>
<p>Is there any malicious behavior (virus, trojan, logic bomb, warm, rootkit, adware, spyware or similar) which you built in your PDF Creator software as part of its “functionality”?</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Dragan</p>
<p>P.S. John, just to let you know that <a href="http://akismet.com/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Akismet</a> had considered your comment as spam before I looked into its queue and moved to regular comments.</p>
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		<title>By: John K.</title>
		<link>http://www.conwex.info/blog/index.php/2009/01/23/tricked-by-wrong-pdfcreator-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-51370</link>
		<dc:creator>John K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dragan,

This is John K. from CapSoft, Inc. publishers of PDF Creator located at http://www.pdfcreator.com/

As with any story there are two sides to consider and hear out. I feel it would be appropriate to let us respond to your allegations as you never brought your concerns to our attention. Furthermore, your research into finding facts on the situation seems to be non-existent and instead you crucify us for your own faulty misguided assumptions.

I feel the first point to note is that no one person or company holds Trademark claim to the term &quot;PDF Creator&quot;. Anyone and any business has the fair right to use this generic term. This name has been used before the Open Source project of &quot;PDFCreator&quot; and has been used since then. This is fair and legal, it&#039;s capitalism and it&#039;s what makes America great.

To imply that the Open Source project &quot;PDFCreator&quot; is sole owner and original developer of such a term is false. You&#039;ve portrayed us as mimicking or copying when we are our own unique product from start to finish. We legally and rightfully use the name &quot;PDF Creator&quot; much like many other businesses and individuals, including the Open Source project &quot;PDFCreator&quot;.

You start your post by saying &quot;I was tricked by CapSoft recently.&quot;. I&#039;d like to ask if you can explain at which point did we trick you? I only see you making a lot of assumptions and not performing due diligence on obvious signs of discrepancies that you so clearly note in your post.

Statements of Trickery:

1. &quot;In those circumstances, I missed to check if that version and the PDF website, which I easily goggled, was the appropriate one.&quot;

You clearly stated that you did not check to see if the version and PDF website was the correct one. Please explain how we tricked you when you did not even check?

2. &quot;I spotted that Web site looks a strange, but I thought they changed it since previous time I downloaded PDFCreator.&quot;

You obviously knew something looked strange. If this was the case then why did you not  confirm you&#039;re at the correct website? You ignored all signs that things were not what you expected but you continued on any way. Please explain how we tricked you?

3. &quot;Unfortunately, I wasn’t to carefull, downloaded, installed that PDF Creator and started to use it.&quot;

You clearly state that you were not careful during this whole process. Please explain how we tricked you when you clearly weren&#039;t careful of what you were doing. Please explain how we tricked you?

4. &quot;Needless to say that user interface is different, behavior is slightly different but I persuaded myself that it is because of newer version.&quot; 

Again, you clearly identify that everything is not as it should, but, again, you persuaded YOURSELF that everything was ok. Please explain how we tricked you?

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It&#039;s obvious that we did not trick you and that you tricked YOURSELF. 

Everything (and I mean everything website, software, emails) is telling you this is NOT &quot;PDFCreator&quot; the Open Source project like you think. Yet for some reason you ignore all obvious logic telling you this is not what you think it is.

You make several notes to our domain http://www-pdfcreator.com and that it&#039;s phishing. Did you not bother to check to see who the owners of http://www.pdfcreator.com actually were? I imagine you&#039;ll be surprised to see that we are the owners of the domain. Are you implying that we are phishing our own website or copying our own name? That just does not make any sense.

As I see it you were too lazy to respond to your brain telling you this is not what you think it is and then when you didn&#039;t get what you expected you looked for someone else to blame instead of taking responsibility for your own laziness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dragan,</p>
<p>This is John K. from CapSoft, Inc. publishers of PDF Creator located at <a href="http://www.pdfcreator.com/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.pdfcreator.com/</a></p>
<p>As with any story there are two sides to consider and hear out. I feel it would be appropriate to let us respond to your allegations as you never brought your concerns to our attention. Furthermore, your research into finding facts on the situation seems to be non-existent and instead you crucify us for your own faulty misguided assumptions.</p>
<p>I feel the first point to note is that no one person or company holds Trademark claim to the term &#8220;PDF Creator&#8221;. Anyone and any business has the fair right to use this generic term. This name has been used before the Open Source project of &#8220;PDFCreator&#8221; and has been used since then. This is fair and legal, it&#8217;s capitalism and it&#8217;s what makes America great.</p>
<p>To imply that the Open Source project &#8220;PDFCreator&#8221; is sole owner and original developer of such a term is false. You&#8217;ve portrayed us as mimicking or copying when we are our own unique product from start to finish. We legally and rightfully use the name &#8220;PDF Creator&#8221; much like many other businesses and individuals, including the Open Source project &#8220;PDFCreator&#8221;.</p>
<p>You start your post by saying &#8220;I was tricked by CapSoft recently.&#8221;. I&#8217;d like to ask if you can explain at which point did we trick you? I only see you making a lot of assumptions and not performing due diligence on obvious signs of discrepancies that you so clearly note in your post.</p>
<p>Statements of Trickery:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;In those circumstances, I missed to check if that version and the PDF website, which I easily goggled, was the appropriate one.&#8221;</p>
<p>You clearly stated that you did not check to see if the version and PDF website was the correct one. Please explain how we tricked you when you did not even check?</p>
<p>2. &#8220;I spotted that Web site looks a strange, but I thought they changed it since previous time I downloaded PDFCreator.&#8221;</p>
<p>You obviously knew something looked strange. If this was the case then why did you not  confirm you&#8217;re at the correct website? You ignored all signs that things were not what you expected but you continued on any way. Please explain how we tricked you?</p>
<p>3. &#8220;Unfortunately, I wasn’t to carefull, downloaded, installed that PDF Creator and started to use it.&#8221;</p>
<p>You clearly state that you were not careful during this whole process. Please explain how we tricked you when you clearly weren&#8217;t careful of what you were doing. Please explain how we tricked you?</p>
<p>4. &#8220;Needless to say that user interface is different, behavior is slightly different but I persuaded myself that it is because of newer version.&#8221; </p>
<p>Again, you clearly identify that everything is not as it should, but, again, you persuaded YOURSELF that everything was ok. Please explain how we tricked you?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that we did not trick you and that you tricked YOURSELF. </p>
<p>Everything (and I mean everything website, software, emails) is telling you this is NOT &#8220;PDFCreator&#8221; the Open Source project like you think. Yet for some reason you ignore all obvious logic telling you this is not what you think it is.</p>
<p>You make several notes to our domain <a href="http://www-pdfcreator.com" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www-pdfcreator.com</a> and that it&#8217;s phishing. Did you not bother to check to see who the owners of <a href="http://www.pdfcreator.com" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.pdfcreator.com</a> actually were? I imagine you&#8217;ll be surprised to see that we are the owners of the domain. Are you implying that we are phishing our own website or copying our own name? That just does not make any sense.</p>
<p>As I see it you were too lazy to respond to your brain telling you this is not what you think it is and then when you didn&#8217;t get what you expected you looked for someone else to blame instead of taking responsibility for your own laziness.</p>
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